The 2014 Connecticut high school football divisions are here!

Southington: 2013 Class LL champions (Mara Lavitt - New Haven Register)

Southington: 2013 Class LL champions (Mara Lavitt – New Haven Register)

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A week ago, the CIAC released its playoff packets for the 2014 fall seasons.

It was met with practically no fanfare, mostly because we didn’t notice it.

Now we’ve noticed and now I feel like Steve Martin in ‘The Jerk.”

(For you young’uns, a ‘Phone-book’ was a massive volume of flimsy paper that, incredibly, listed the landlines of everybody in your county and state in microscopic-point font that came every year from your local telephone company. It was the contact list for the entire region, written down. It was, of course, bulky and huge. Old copies are probably stacked somewhere in your parents’ basement or garage, holding things open or up.)

Anyway… Playoff packets. OK, so what does this mean?

Well, get excited (or down) because the playoff packet is where the CIAC unveils the football playoff divisions.

Now you find out who you’ll be competing against to win one of two state championships given out in each class this year.

Here’s where you can download the full packet.

We’ll skip all of the tweaks and new concussion awareness stuff for now and get to the meat of the matter: What will this year’s state playoffs look like.

1. As you’re aware, we have EIGHT state champions this year. The state quarterfinals have been eliminated, but we’ll be playing the semifinals and finals over two weeks instead of one like we did in the olden days of 2009. They’re trying to figure out a way to put back quarterfinals for 2015, but Thanksgiving — as always — stands in the way.

2. There are still four main divisions, however. The big difference is once the top eight teams are determined in each division, the CIAC will split them in two according to size. The eight groupings of four will then play down for a state “championship.” Large LL, Small LL, Large L, Small L, Large M, Small M, Large S, Small S. (Retch!)

3. The SIXTEEN semifinal games will be held Dec. 6 (Retch!)

4. The EIGHT state championships will be held Dec. 12-13 at SITES TO BE DETERMINED. (Goodie for you New Canaan and Darien.)

5. Listed below are team division changes based on boys enrollment numbers from the previous season. There was a lot more movement from the previous year.

Class LL, L and M feature 35 teams, a net-loss of one each from 2013. Class S has 38 teams, same as last year.

  • CLASS LL adds: Bristol Central (from L) and Farmington (from L); CLASS LL drops: Newington (to L), South Windsor (L), Kennedy (L).
  • CLASS L adds: Newington (from LL), South Windsor (from LL), Kennedy (from LL), New Fairfield (from M), Barlow (from M). CLASS L drops: Avon (to M), Bristol Central (to LL), East Lyme (to M), Cheney Tech (to M), New London (to M).
  • CLASS M adds: Avon (from L), East Lyme (from L), Cheney Tech (from L), New London (from L), SMSA/University (from S), Immaculate/Abbott Tech (new co-op), Sacred Heart/Kaynor Tech (new co-op); CLASS M drops: New Fairfield (to L), Barlow (to L), Bullard-Havens (to S), Granby (to S), Stonington (to S), Tolland (to S), Valley Regional/Old Lyme (to S).
  • CLASS S adds: Bullard-Havens (from M), Granby (from M), Stonington (from M), Tolland (from M), Valley Regional/Old Lyme (from M); CLASS S drops: SMSA/University (to M), Sacred Heart (co-op to M), Immaculate (co-op to M), Whitney Tech (JV), Housatonic (JV).

So, without further ado:

Divisional setup for 2014

CLASS LL

SCHOOL #BOYS
Danbury 1485
Greenwich 1328
New Britain 1299
Norwich Free Academy 1082
Westhill 1044
Glastonbury 1035
Trumbull 1012
Southington 1001
Stamford 977
Hamden 954
Staples 930
Ridgefield 919
Fairfield Prep 901
Bridgeport Central 895
Newtown 882
Xavier 863
Amity 825
Cheshire 824
East Hartford 823
Simsbury 820
McMahon 818
Manchester 794
Norwalk 792
West Haven 773
Shelton 768
Conard 762
Hall 750
Fairfield Warde 733
Crosby 730
Fairfield Ludlowe 710
New Milford 708
Hartford Public 707
Wilby 695
Bristol Central 688
Farmington 687


CLASS L

SCHOOL #BOYS
Darien 686
Kennedy 686
Wilbur Cross 672
Vinal Tech / East Hampton / Goodwin Tech ** 671
Naugatuck 670
Newington 667
South Windsor 667
Wilton 665
Pomperaug 648
New Canaan 640
Bristol Eastern 639
Wethersfield 625
Bassick 624
Hand 623
Middletown 622
Notre Dame-West Haven 622
Maloney 615
Masuk 615
Windsor 612
Platt 606
North Haven 599
E.O. Smith 594
RHAM 593
Fitch 585
Bulkeley / HMTCA ** 574
Torrington 573
Windsor Locks/Suffield/East Granby** 552
Harding 551
Guilford 549
Bunnell 549
Stratford 547
Branford 537
New Fairfield 530
Barlow 529
Platt Tech 523


CLASS M

SCHOOL #BOYS
Hillhouse 514
Woodstock Academy 514
East Lyme 513
Quinebaug Valley-Putnam ** 513
Coventry/Windham Tech/Bolton ** 511
New London 506
Avon 505
Cheney Tech 500
Immaculate / Abbott Tech. ** 495
Berlin 488
Foran 483
Lyman Hall 482
Bethel 481
Fermi 476
East Haven 465
St. Bernard/Norwich Tech ** 464
Law 461
Rockville 458
Sacred Heart / Kaynor Tech ** 455
Wilcox Tech 451
Watertown 446
Brookfield 441
Sheehan 438
Ledyard 434
SMSA / University ** 432
Wolcott 428
Bacon Academy 426
St. Joseph 425
Gilbert/Northwestern ** 422
Ellington/Somers ** 420
Killingly 420
Wolcott Tech 419
Waterford 416
Lewis Mills 413
Weston 409


CLASS S

 

SCHOOL #BOYS
Tolland 408
Stonington 382
Bullard Havens 377
Granby Memorial 375
A.I. Prince 373
East Catholic 373
O’Brien Tech 366
Plainville 366
Rocky Hill 366
Enfield 363
Plainfield 360
Valley Regional/Old Lyme ** 357
Montville 352
Woodland 342
Windham 340
Nonnewaug 340
Ansonia 334
Seymour 320
Old Saybrook/Westbrook ** 316
Oxford 312
Griswold 308
North Branford 301
Haddam-Killingworth 299
Holy Cross 291
Coginchaug 290
Northwest Catholic 289
Canton 287
Morgan 283
Bloomfield 279
Cromwell 279
Trinity Catholic 262
Stafford/East Windsor ** 243
Notre Dame-Fairfield 218
St. Paul 217
Derby 198
Hyde Leadership 166
Weaver 154
Capital / Achievement ** 131

Comments

  1. Only a Freshman Coach...... says

    SPB – Let me get this straight: Once the 8 teams in a Class qualify for playoffs, then they will be seeded in 2 divisions (i.e. “Small” and “Large”) by these enrollment numbers you’ve posted?

    • Sean Patrick BowleySean Patrick Bowley says

      Yessir. Largest four play for one title, the smallest four play for another.

      8 teams, 2 divisions of 4, two state champs x 4 = 8 champs.

      • Vern says

        8 state champs in CT? That is the same as Florida…so it must mean CT HS football is as good as Florida!

      • Bubba says

        Can we have some fun and make some predictions? It’s rainy out and I don’t want to go to my family reunion and look at everyone.

  2. JB says

    IDK … Farmington could become the “Small-LL” state champion … would be a once in a program-history-chance for that shot.

    • Just Sayin says

      True, it’s gonna be a funny year, and not funny haha. Is Newtown missing from the Class L list?

  3. Bubba says

    LL: Greenwich, Xavier, Shelton, Simsbury, Ridgefield, Prep, Staples, and Hall
    L: Darien, NC, Hand, NDWH, NH, Naugy, Middletown, Masuk
    M: E. Lyme, Avon, New London, Brookfield, Berlin, Ledyard, Wolcott, Foran
    S:Woodland, Ansonia, North Branford, Morgan, Cromwell, St. Paul Coginchaug, East Catholic

    These are the teams I believe will make the playoffs, not a ranked order

    • scc fan says

      Bubba, not sold on Class LL with Shelton and Simsbury. Shelton lost alot of seniors. Dont know much about Simsbury. Ridgefield will be interesting though since they lost their RB and S/WR/TE. Two big losses there.

      Class L will be Hand’s league to lose. Masuk will be down again for a year or two.

    • JB says

      Picnic was cancelled, Bubba, so I will join you. I like your lists. For LL, my elite 8 is:

      1. Prep
      2. Southington
      3. Greenwich
      4. Shelton
      5. West Haven
      6. Glastonbury
      7. Xavier
      8. Staples

      Week 1 will show us a lot in LL … can Xavier re-load vs Staples under the lights in Westport, will Longi run wild on WH all over that blue deviled field, can Trumbull not get blown-out again by Shelton (nope). The beat goes on into L …

      1. Hand
      2. Darien
      3. North Haven
      4. NDWH
      5. New Canaan
      6. Middletwon
      7. Naugy
      8. Masuk

      Going to need two EMUs for that Darien / NH tilt … both teams are hard hitting shutdown this year. NC vs Hand will be interesting … I don’t think either team will be great on defense … but explosive always on offense – could we see nearly 100 points up at the Surf Club (like Hand 60 – NC 40)?

      Don’t know M or S well enough to comment much there. Would like to see Foran make M states this year and also that Ansonia vs Newtown game will be very interesting … Brookfield in M looks tough this year. St Joes becomes primarily a running team behind the M-train? Could happen – but probably not, Joe looking around town for a new QB transfer?

      Happy 4th to all.

    • Boris says

      Bubba ,
      Your off a bit on your M & S predictions. Go watch some games outside the FCIAC, SCC & SWC.

      • ACL says

        From what I see, Bubba had one team from the SCC (Foran) and one from the SWC (Brookfield). The rest of the teams are all from different leagues. Not to mention the FCIAC only has one team in M (St. Joe’s) and he doesn’t have them in the playoffs.

        What’s your point?

  4. Masuk says

    Masuk will not be down for a year or two. Hard pressed to find a team who is gonna score with them, only down size is they may be a little small. PLUS they have a coach who knows tha game and hold kids accountable.

      • Bubba says

        [You're] crazy if you think it will be a easy game. I see NC beating Hand, and Hand beating NC. Challenge and Playoffs, who will win the important game is all that matters.

        • Sean Patrick BowleySean Patrick Bowley says

          Edited. Want to make sure everybody knows the difference between ‘your’ and ‘you’re’ :)

  5. mike c says

    JB I BELIEVE YOUR QUESTION SHOULD BE HOW MANY LITTLE AND LYONS AND GIBBS SCORE ON GREENWICH! Westies have a little revenge on their mind.McCarthy will make sure of that

  6. mike c says

    I JUST NOTICED WESTIES PLAY 6 games AGAINST YOU PROGNOSTICATORS TOP PICKS.IT DOESN’T GET MUCH TOUGHER THAN THAT

  7. JB says

    Agreed, WH has one of the toughest schedules this year with Hand and Prep right there as well. Best of the SCC will likely be in the LL and L finals … maybe even both sizes for LL and L. WH always good with speed, not sure what they have up front this year. Greenwich has it all. Should be a great game, hopefully, no weather delays.

    • Sigh says

      If there was no weather delays last year the game wouldn’t have even been close…… Westies on the 10 yard line with all momentum up a score

  8. ACL says

    At first glance, it looks like Foran may have caught a break in M. While Avon and New London moving down isn’t the best of news, Barlow, Stonington, Valley, and Bullard Havens leaving is better news. That’s three teams that all had more points than Foran last year. Not only that, if things fall right in the top 8 (and Foran does what it is capable of), they might avoid St. Joe’s (Foran in M Large, St. Joe’s in M Small).

    All that said, it is only July 7th. Who the hell knows anything at this point?

    CT having the same number of state champs as FL is such a disgrace. smh

    • Overrated says

      Don’t get me wrong, I think Kasuba is the best QB in the SCC, but he lost all 4 of his receivers and his running back last year. Foran will not be as good as they were last year

      • ACL says

        Actually, they didn’t lose their RB. The team’s leading rusher was Longley and he is back and ready to take on a bigger role in the offense. If not for two missed games and all those receivers, Longley rushes for 1K easily last year.

        WR is a concern but there are some very good athletes that will fill in nicely and do the job. It won’t be at the same level as their predecessors but they will still be able to get the job done.

        Bottom line is that Foran will still be able to put points on the board as they have in years past.

        • Overrated says

          Other than Kasuba, Foran’s only strengths last year were the receivers (and DB’s pretty much same players) They lost all of them and the OL, DL, and Linebackers were mediocre at best.

          • ACL says

            Actually, there was only one receiver that played both ways, Weissauer. Their H-back, Cadrin, played both ways as well (not a receiver). Deegan and White (the other two receivers) did not play any defense. Replacing those three receivers will be tough, no question. That being said, those receivers benefitted more from the system and the QB than anything else. The guys filling those shoes are just as good athletically and are 5-6″ taller than last year’s corps (they are as tall as Deegan was).

            By the end of the season, Foran’s defense was as good as any around (how many other teams held Cooper to 19 yards rushing?) so your statement about the receivers being their only strength is inaccurate.

            They lost one on the OL, Hubler. His replacement is actually bigger and faster than he was. They also have a center returning to start for his third year.

            On defense, they lost quite a bit but return their ILB (McLenithan), one corner (Mixie), and two DL that played a lot last year as sophomores (Howell and S. Kopatch). The OLB will be Townsend who also played quite a bit last year when A. Kopatch was hurt. While Longley didn’t play on defense last year (he was their leading rusher), FS/SS is his better position and will make an impact on both sides of the ball. Longley and McLenithan will be known as two of the hardest hitters in their division by week three.

            Obviously, you only know Kasuba’s name and that’s fine. Don’t make blanket statements that show how little you know about a team, especially one that I know better than any in the state.

          • Overrated says

            Well it looks like Foran is going to go undefeated by the way you’re describing them. You’re making them seem like the greatest team of the century. White played safety and Deegan played some defense too. the 4th receiver is a receiver regardless of what his position title is. Their OL and Defensive front got dominated by every good team they played. They lost all 3 games against good teams. Weissauer is a once and a lifetime player for a school like Foran. He really carried them. Deegan and White were exceptional receivers as well. No matter how great you say the replacements are, there is no way they can replace those 3, even with the best QB this conference has

  9. Marc Robbins says

    Very disappointing that the CIAC doesn’t allow for any outside consulting or constructive criticism. If they do, we wouldn’t know, because the CIAC doesn’t open meetings up to the public. Doesn’t have any media availability. Hard for me to believe that’s the best way to run programs that are supposed to benefit the kids and communities. By the way, you have LL Large and LL Small,, what happened to LL Cool J!!!!

  10. gobballfan says

    They allow it, they just don’t listen to any of it. Follow the $$$$$. They won’t make tough decisions, just stupid ones. Nobody but the guys sitting up in the CIAC offices in Cheshire thinks this playoff format makes any sense. It’s a joke. 8 state champions in football? They can’t play one more game to get it to 4? They are still going to have the undefeated teams with weak schedules being blown out in the playoffs.

    • Sean Patrick BowleySean Patrick Bowley says

      I can tell you it’s not the guys in Cheshire, but the guys sitting in AD offices across CT.

      • JB says

        Sean, any idea what the “solution” will be? I thought the CIAC said they would announce something by the start of the 2014 season? … which is only in about 8 weeks.

        • Sean Patrick BowleySean Patrick Bowley says

          Nope. They’re nowhere near a solution. Two camps: The bring back QFs, dump Thanksgiving coaches camp. And the Keep Thanksgiving and “figure it out after that” camp.

          It’s a straight-up mess. New Exec secretary at CIAC said in May he didn’t see a solution until September.

      • gobballfan says

        If that is the case then maybe CT needs a “BCS” for about 25 serious football schools and let the others play their 10 games and a Thanksgiving game. A sold out home game every other year is holding back a legitimate playoff format?

  11. JB says

    ADs don’t support the district model, but I hear T-day is going to get axed … so let’s get everything done at once. Expand the playoffs to 16 teams in 4 divisions. Start the season a week earlier and hold the finals the Friday/Saturday after T-day. No more “one-site” locations – hold the games closer to the natural fan base and keep the funding for high school stadiums (like Boyle or West Haven). It’s still T-day break, so there could be big turnouts for the finals. And if leagues want a title game, so what, but make them eliminate their bye week to slot it in.

    • Sean Patrick BowleySean Patrick Bowley says

      District model’s not even a discussion. That was just us screwing around. That has as much a chance of being enacted as we have to be invaded by New York State.

      But the rest of your proposal is exactly what one coaching faction wants. Start Labor Day week, play 10 games over 11 weeks. End weekend before Thanksgiving. Playoffs the weekend after Thanksgiving.

      It makes so much sense.

      • JB says

        Count me in. T-day weekend will become a state-wide championship weekend … 16 teams per division will be a great cross section of the state creating very strong playoffs and will definitely include all teams that deserve to be there, regardless of the point system.

        • Sean Patrick BowleySean Patrick Bowley says

          Yea. that makes perfect sense. I’ll lament the holiday, but the season finale will still be the season finale and will still be exciting. You can play Saturday afternoon (or morning) to give it that Thanksgiving feel.

          It’s time.

  12. Frank says

    Hand is playing Xavier on Halloween. I heard through the grapevine Xavier wanted to keep the game on Friday, apparently they don’t have young children in that part of the state that trick or treat.

    • Jason says

      Hand fan sounds bitter bout the spanking the Falcons gave em at the Surf Club last year…Trick or Treat Tigers

      • SCC Runs The State says

        First off 28-14 isn’t a spanking second off xavier is going to be under .500 this year unless they can pull some strings by recruiting and its almost even too late for that

        • Jason says

          First off, no one was really talking to you, but now that you’ve chimed in, I’ll address your comment. Sure, on paper 28-14 isn’t a spanking, but that game was never really in doubt if you paid attention. Score could have been worse. And Xavier will definitely not be under .500 this year, based on your moniker, you probably should have known that. They’ll be better this year than they were last year.

          And good one with the recruiting joke, that was funny and original. Certainly not a joke that has ever been made before.

          • Greg P says

            Xavier lost their quarterback and their running back who were basically the whole team last year. Im sure Xavier still has capable players to step up but I just cant see them being a playoff team until we see what they got

      • Frank says

        Not a bitter Hand fan, just a fan of H.S football, want to see the game, but my priority will be to take my 3 year old out trick or treating, unless they move the game up. I enjoy the Hand vs. Xavier games. If you do your homework, Hand has won 80% of the games they have played.

          • JB says

            Carbone and Meoli were “2nd string” their junior year behind Boyle and Berry. Xavier always has skill replacements. Where they get better this year is OL and defense … lots of underclassman last year at DB and DL. Xavier could be better this year than last year – big senior class with lots of play time usually translates well. But they do need to find the right QB and RB to be a playoff team.

        • Jason says

          Frank, I was just messing with you. I understand the whole Halloween thing and family obligations, but a lot of games that week fall on Halloween. Should be a great game with a great atmosphere regardless.

          SCC Runs the State, try harder.

          JB is correct. Xavier will have a great line on both sides of the ball and a great secondary. QB and LB’s will have question marks, but great programs don’t rebuild, they reload. Name to watch is RB Teddy Duarte. Got playing time late in games as a Soph and looked really good. Strong powerful runner. Was hurt all last year with a broken collarbone so never played but is back this year as a senior. Brutal schedule though (Staples + SCC gauntlet).

          Can’t wait for football to come back, it’s been too long of a break.

  13. ciacfollower says

    with candidates like Alex LaPolice vying for the starting QB job this Fall, who was counting NC out as one of the top contenders in the state because “they lost their ’13 QB to graduation” ?
    The top two ‘reloading’ programs in the state meet under the Friday night lights at SurfClub on 9/12…Cant wait !

    • Bubba says

      In Tiger Territory, we always expect NC to be competitive, doesn’t matter who graduated. Should be a good one.

    • JB says

      NC no where near last year’s team. NC always good on offense – they have tons of those reloads every year and play the spread. However, no way to replace that senior OL and defense … 5 players in that group went D-1AA college – including guys like Buck, Root and Harris – not something NC or any public school has very often in one season, if ever.

      Hand isn’t reloading – that was last year. But neither team is great on defense. There might be 100 pts scored in total at the Surf Club.

      My pick this year is neither team … its Greewnich – they will have it all. Longi best player in the state behind a solid OL/QB and improved defense including Longi at shutdown corner. Oh, did we mention Longi is the best return man maybe in CT history. Check the stats.

      • ciacfollower says

        All teams reload, to some extent, every season. Let me make it clearer, for the last 20yrs+ on average, these are the two best prepared teams in the entire state. The SCC/FCIAC Football Challenge is the best thing the CIAC has done in years. September cant come fast enough !

        • Frank says

          CIAC had nothing to do with it. This was set up by the league commissioners and Athletic Directors. Anything good the CIAC has nothing to do with.

      • Not Ray Brown says

        I feel like sometimes JB is the only guy on here who looks at things objectively. Good insight keep it coming.

      • youngman says

        To JB, I know that in the scheme of things the preseason doesn’t mean much,
        but I’d like to point out that in last week’s ‘Grip It & Rip It’ 7 on 7 competition at
        New Canaan HS, little ol’, teeny weeny Morgan of Clinton & of the invisible Pequot beat Greenwich & shut down Longi in doing so. Longi’s a great player, surely one of the best in the state, but I wouldn’t put him ahead of Jake Ward.
        The class S division & the Pequot in general gets short shrift because unlike the programs at other, high profile schools, such as Hand, Xavier, Prep, NC, etc., they don’t ‘reload’ as they say. The class S/Pequot teams peak, then rebuild. Morgan is peaking this year & is fielding a team that can play with any
        one in the state, & featuring a RB who could start on any team in the state. Ward was an all state safety last year & should have been all state at RB seeing as how he finished behind Newsome of Ansonia.

  14. jeb says

    Hand vs. New Canaan should be a a “doozie” These two teams might meet again in the playoffs but NC must navigate through a tough schedule as does Hand. Greenwich,Hand, St.Joes,Staples,Darien and Danbury. Ouch!!! Hand has all the big boys from the powerful SCC. Is Hand ever down?.
    It’s too bad that Staples vs Xavier and West Haven vs. Greenwich are being played on the same day as the Hand -NC game.

      • Can't wait for football says

        Hand probably has the toughest schedule in the state but I would think If Wilbur Cross and Guilford aren’t considered easy games then Hand probably won’t be playing for a state title. I think Hand wins those two easy and possibly Hillhouse isn’t so tough this year either.

  15. JB says

    Here is the basis of my observation … last year NC’s 2nd-team defense couldn’t stop very many teams. They gave up 21 points to Warde in the 3rd / 4th quarters. In the 3rd quarter at Cardinal Stadium, Greenwich scored 2 quick TDs against the 2nd-team defense and then the NC senior starters came back in to keep a lid on the score. Against Staples, the NC senior starters never came out of the game – even in teh 4th quarter up 4 TDs. Many of us thought “that is Lou just trying to make a statement to the voters” … however, it could be because the back-ups (this year’s starters) are not nearly as good. I think that is the key to NC’s 2014 season – can they reload on defense or is the fall-off that dramatic. Time will tell.

  16. ciacfollower says

    Well I never claimed my comments were the best prepared in the entire state (lol), & I also never claimed this year’s NC team was going to be as good or better than last year’s, that’s a very tought act to follow. What I was implying while being careful not to take away from the kids, is that these are the two best coached teams in the state. They’re laden with relatively unknown talent and I’m confident they will both rise in the top ten by Nov. In the mean time, mark down 9/12 on your calendar when they meet in Madison.

    • SCC Runs The State says

      Both teams have their strengths and weaknesses for this upcoming year but they both have the two best coaches and coaching staffs in the state and both should be ranked top five in preseason poll. Hand may have a slight advantage since its on their home turf but either way the surf club will be the place to be on september 12!

      • fciac jr says

        I give the edge to Hand due to the returning starters they have coming back. If they would just stagger the opening weekend games starting on Monday and going through Saturday, we could have the best week of football in the history of CTHSFB. But looks like I will be heading to the Surf Club if I get out of work on time.

  17. JB says

    Strange year, mike c – it could be just as possible WH, Xavier and Hand all start 0-1.

    WH lost too much with Irv the straw that stirred the drink. Greenwich returns virtually everyone with Longi now the feature back in the state. But Ken Strong is not a happy spot for the FCIAC …

    Xavier … who knows? Same thing for Staples. Too close to call.

    NC and Hand in a classic shoot-out … like 100pts in total at the Surf Club. Beware of strange outcomes when neither team plays defense. Big plays dominate – but who makes them that night? My head says the Tigers prevail but my gut is nawing Rams.

  18. Sean Patrick BowleySean Patrick Bowley says

    Since you guys are all loyally getting us kick-started for 2014 football, is there anything you’d like to see from our end? Yes, I’m soliciting ideas. I have a few, but figured I’d ask the die-hards first.

        • Rob (OCEC) says

          Since you asked, for those of us that reside WAAAYYYY to the East past the “impenetrable” Connecticut River, is it possible to get some East Coast Coverage? I know, ECC is weak, blah blah blah. Ask ST Joes what it was like playing Track Meet at Trumbull High School last year in the Quarter Finals, they’ll let you know. Also, New London’s kicker is a Sophomore this year? Most people would say so what, HOWEVER, he made the game winner VS Middletown and NFA from respectable distances. So either blow them out or get ready to have your heart broken.

  19. JB says

    Might be too daunting, but would love to see your “elite 8″ state-wide by division … maybe like a building block to when the NHR comes out with its pre-season top 10 poll. This would be done just for the pre-season with some good stats on returners, new impact players, guys to watch, etc. Kind of like a “watch” guide on teams in each division with a conclusion / collective view by GameTimeCT. Leaving the ultimate state-wide “top 10″ to be debated, then culminating with the NHR top 10 pre-season poll.

  20. mike c says

    West Haven has a lot returning believe me when I say it.My son is on the team and so are his 40 or so friend who are 2 time defending Connecticut and New England champions in Pop Warner.Two years ago they beat a team from Texas and California in Orlando but then lost to Florida team in national championship game.They have A multitude of skill players that grew up playing Westie offense. They have two all started in Lyons and Little and a quarterback Mccarthy who has been in the program since he was in diapers.They will be deeper and better this year.

  21. JB says

    mike c – love your enthusiasm for the home team but I don’t see it on paper. WH graduated the entire starting OL plus Gary and Erv … that is nearly 3500 yds and 50 TDs of production last year. Little and Lyons are great athletes but they will need a seasoned OL and QB. The rising WH senior class is listed as 9 players, only one of which is OL. Greenwich is way deeper than that, and nearly every key starter is returning.

  22. jeb says

    Sean, How about an update on Jack Cochran and John Murphy. Also, is there a chance that the SCC and the FCIAC can keep these great opening games going now that there is a chance that Bassick and Harding will be leaving the FCIAC.

    • Sean Patrick BowleySean Patrick Bowley says

      Jack and Murph aren’t coaching. Jack quit Harding after three weeks for what he said were health issues and hasn’t been heard from since, publicly.

      Murphy resigned from New Milford abruptly after spring practices for what he said were personal reasons. Later, New Milford said his resignation came just as they were investigating an unreported issue with him, according to the News-Times.

      As for the SCC/FCIAC, since we won’t see 11-game schedules anymore, it’s unlikely since the SCC will fill out a 10-week schedule, minus one bye team each week. I assume they could possibly come to an arrangement to fill out those weekly bye dates with each other.

      • JB says

        Sadly, the Challenge games are most likely history. We will be lucky to get 10 regular season games … the coalition wants to shorten season further – Iowa went to 8-game regular season and expanded playoffs. We are going to have to face this issue in CT if we want expanded playoffs.

    • BobbyQ says

      mike c, do not put much stock into the Yale camp. Last year, Ansonia looked like crap at Yale and they ended up #1. WH will be ok but have a lot to prove. Unfortunately, they have a very tough schedule with the cross over and SCC D1. It will be a tough road ahead of them. Now if you put them into the SWC/NVL, I would say they go undefeated but that aint happening.

  23. JB says

    mike c – not trying to dis on WH … totally respect the program and great coaching. WH will reload but will not have much varsity-level experience at some critical positions – QB and OL. I wouldn’t make too much from camps or scrimmages – programs like Hand and Darien use the sessions like spring practice to evaluate the newbies – the returning starters don’t take very many snaps.

  24. Impartial Observer says

    I have seen the WH QB in action at a passing league and, with no pressure, he is missing easy throws. The WR’s are very good and will make up for some of the errant throws but not all of them. They have an issue at QB.

    The WR’s seem to be reading, and believing, their pre-season hype. Their attitudes are not very good in my opinion. They didn’t seem to pay too close attention to Erv and the way he handled himself last year.

  25. youngman says

    It’s interesting how all these blogs talk about the teams in the SCC, CCC, FCIAC, SWC & NVL without
    mentioning The Pequot or the S division in general, other than the perennial powerhouse, Ansonia.
    Well, let me make a few observations. There are a lot of good teams in the S division & the Pequot;
    Cromwell, North Branford, Coginchaug, Valley, & Morgan among them. I can assure everyone reading this blog that Morgan is poised & ready for a great year. 99% of last year’s playoff team is returning,
    their veteran line, averaging over 6″ & nearly 300 lbs. across, is back. Their RB, Jake Ward, who finished behind Arkeel Newsome with 2600 yds & 41 TDs is back. Their lock down, shut down secondary, one that tied the state record by returning 3 pics for TDs in the same game is back. & those kids make up a corps of fleet, sure handed WRs.. In short, the Huskies are loaded for bear this
    coming season. Now forget their 2 losses last year by a combined 90 points & don’t say they don’t play
    anybody. I know these kids & their coaches. If anybody beats them they’re going to have to go like hell to do it!

    • Coach Lil B says

      I never saw Morgan play last year but had heard they would be very good two years ago when all these Seniors were starting as sophomores. A lot is to be said for an experienced team like that. Great size and good athletes at the skills. They will be a tough team to beat and I wouldn’t be surprised if they go undefeated in the Pequot, they have a legit shot at a title this year. Again, this is going off what I’ve heard and looking at their roster from a size and numbers standpoint. Looking at their schedule I’d say North Branford and Valley will be tough games, both those teams return a lot and have good skills across the board.

      • Sean Patrick BowleySean Patrick Bowley says

        Problem with Morgan last year is, while the Huskies ripped through most of the Pequot, they got obliterated by Valley and practically obliterated by Woodland.

        Good team, no doubt. But has to perform significantly better in the big game before anyone takes them seriously.

        Yes, coach, you may print this out and tack it to the bulletin board. Not that you needed my permission.

        I just ask that you give me a copy of it once you do win the big game, like Ansonia did a few years ago.

        • youngman says

          Fair reply, Sean, & true. I think, no, I believe they will win that big one as
          you say. I guess we’ll all see!

        • youngman says

          Sean, it’s interesting that you call me coach. I’m not, even though I have
          an admittedly strong interest in the Morgan program & have ties to it.

  26. JB says

    Sean, I think everything is still on the table. The parent coalition is pointing to the Ivy League changes as the goal / model for CTHSFB – Ivy schools play 10 total games and have strict limits on full contact in practice. The medical experts that the Ivy League commissioned are effectively telling states to “limit full contact” as the only viable means to reduce concussions, I fear we are going to face the following dilemma – give up the extended playoffs or reduce the regular season. If we want 16-team playoffs in 4 divisions (ideal), then we may have to go with an 8-game regular season (w/bye week) and no T-day games.

    • Sean Patrick BowleySean Patrick Bowley says

      No. I don’t believe that is the case. We won’t drop more than the 11th regular season game. I haven’t heard one person in the know mention your possibilities.

      • Just Sayin says

        The problem with anything less than a 10 game schedule is that the vast majority of teams do not make the playoffs and would be practicing year round for an 8 week season. That’s not going to help to keep kids in the sport. The primary function of high school sports is to afford students an opportunity to play for their school. Championships are a by-product of the season, not the reason for playing it. My son’s team has made the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years as a 7 or 8 seed, so I understand what JB is saying. But I’d rather be guaranteed 10 than play 8 and hope for more.

        • Sean Patrick BowleySean Patrick Bowley says

          Great point. Agreed. Connecticut doesn’t *nearly* have the same amount of playoff teams as other states. Hence, 10 is just right. Every football team in the country should be allowed at least 10 games.

          In Iowa’s case, all of their playoff teams have to win FIVE playoff games to win state title (Connecticut: Just three), meaning more teams make it per capita. That’s probably why they’re cutting way back on the regular season.

          • Just Sayin says

            Besides we need more time to debate football, not less. You gotta start working on something for the summer. We NEED football.

          • Sean Patrick BowleySean Patrick Bowley says

            Patience.

            We’re planning big things. Everything that was great here last year will be turned up a couple hundred notches.

  27. Youngman says

    To Coach Lil B very nice & accurate assessment of Morgan. They’ve come a
    Long way the past 2 years & I can assure you the 2 losses last year left an indelible impression & a bad taste in their collective mouths. Only one way to right the ship & gain redemption as Sean Patrick Bowley pointed out. The talent & experience is there in abundance. If anyone beats them this year they’re gonna have to go like hell to do it!

  28. Terrance says

    Morgan is going to be good, and Yes they can win the big games. Once upon a time, they were on equal footing with Hand-Madison. Those are some good sized kids, and they have good skill and are well coached. I would love to see the Huskies back on top. Morgan’s is a also getting a new school and probably a turf stadium, good things happening in Clinton.

    • SCC Runs The State says

      Yes, they used to be on equal footing with Hand but that was back in the 70′s when Clinton was a bigger school then they are now and had almost twice the amount of kids in the school. Clinton is good for pequot and they will definitely be good next year but they will never be as good as Hand they just don’t have the numbers… Wish they still played Hand though

      • JB says

        So why does Morgan have such a low enrollment? Clinton has 13k residents and Madison 18k, yet Hand has nearly 3 times the enrollment as Morgan … where do all those Clinton kids go to high school?

  29. youngman says

    To SCC Runs The State, A fair & true assessment of Morgan. They played Hand in passing
    league over at Guilford & beat them. In regulation football they match up well with Hand’s first team
    but lack the depth otherwise.

    • See (Mike) Spots run says

      Ha ha ha! Passing league! Good one. Win a state championship (or 11) then mouth off about competing with Hand. Enjoy your two seasons of above .500 then go back to being a doormat of the Pequot. The last time Morgan was somewhat decent they had to cheat to beat Hand.

      • youngman says

        You don’t know a thing about Morgan or it’s football program, do you?! Otherwise you wouldn’t make such snide, smart ass comments as the
        ones you just made. Just ask around, See (Mike) Spots run, & you’ll get an
        idea how well coached, disciplined & talented The Morgan Huskies are. Oh,
        by the way, Morgan beat Hand in passing league again tonight, along with
        Notre Dame, West Haven & North Haven! Ha, ha, ha!

        • Just Sayin says

          If Morgan were to play an actual football game against North Haven, West Haven, Notre Dame, or Hand, it’s mercy time. Sorry youngman, this ain’t the pequot (correctly spelled with lower case letters).

        • Dream on says

          West Haven has never played Morgan in a passing league. Kid on the team and i go to their passing leave against NDF Hyde Bassick Foran and more teams at Foran. Just would like to let everyone know that if he’s lying about west haven, he’s probably lying about ND, NH, and Hand. Grow up kid

    • SCC Runs The State says

      Youngman… The reason Morgan has such low enrollment besides the fact that Madison is a little bigger is because Daniel Hand is a top 20 academic high school in the state if connecticut along with the fact that barley any football players leave because of the tradition and success of Hand football. That is what makes kids stay at Hand and not leave for private schools where as Morgan isn’t the best academic school and haven’t had much recent success in football and sports in general compared to Hand

      • Terrance says

        Sad but accurate statement. Their is no reason whey that community doesn’t have a better academic reputation. High Correlation between good academics, solid communities, and good athleteics.

  30. ciacfollower says

    Morgan was never on par with Hand.
    They like to think that since they’ve won a few more battles than Madison’s neighbor on its other side, Guilford.
    The two schools (M&H) played each other approx. 23 times between ’71-’93, of which Morgan won 7 of them. That includes a tie, which Clintonians probably consider a victory. Regarding the ’70′s, the Husky’s won 3 of them. So they werent equal with them then either.

  31. Terrance says

    My point about Morgan being on equal footing with Hand- Madison, has to do with they have history and they were a proud football traditions too. These kids and coaches are trying to get that back for their town, like Madison has with Hand. That’s a good thing for sports and communities. I wasn’t trying to make the comparison, just like to see a new dog (huskies) on the block, makes things fun and interesting and soulful. Can we have grown up conversations this upcoming season? Go CT Football!

    • ciacfollower says

      Not trying to knock Morgan, they’re a scrappy program with a lot of returning talent this year. But, as I think SPB mentioned, they definitely have to win the big ones in order to develop the respect & tradition they yearn. Early on and still today, Hand’s made a name for itself by winning huge games in which they were considered heavy underdogs.

  32. youngman says

    I know there are many who don’t take much stock in passing league or linemen competitions & that’s
    understandable. it isn’t regulation football. But those competitions do provide a barometer or measure
    of a team’s potential & that’s what coaching staffs look for.

    • Take My Wife Please! says

      youngman, you must be related to the late, great Henny Youngman because you too are a comedian! Passing leagues, Gripping It and Ripping It, and linemen tire flip contests all mean NOTHING. Any coach worth his salt knows that the only thing that matters is can you get your players prepared to play on Friday night. Eagle and company have done a very nice job so far, and you Husky fans are high on this year’s crop so good luck. But please don’t compare yourself to programs that have won multiple state titles until you win a couple.

      • restless on the shoreline says

        Take My Wife Please. I don’t think schools that participate in passing league or
        linemen’s competition do it for nothing. You say the only thing that matters is to
        get a team ready for Friday night. Well, passing league & linemen competition
        must be a pretty valuable way to assess talent, wouldn’t you think? Hand must think it important somehow, otherwise why would they be involved?

  33. restless on the shoreline says

    Take My Wife Please! Very clever with the allusion to youngman. I think Eagle is going to bring
    some titles to Morgan. He seems to know the game & what he’s doing.

  34. Coach Lil B says

    Passing league doesn’t really provide a great look at what a team will be like with a line and a rush on, plus running game, hitting etc. Big differences there…..BUT it can gage a teams competitive edge, dedication to the team, and is a great way to get the players together to learn their techniques and plays and Compete. Morgan (having not seen them play) would fair well I believe against the SCC mentioned above, some of these teams I have seen play and they aren’t overly impressive. Morgan in a one game scenario with full health rosters prolly beats 2 out of the 4 teams mentioned earlier from Scc (2 of 4 worst case scenario, I think they’d win 3 of 4) but in a full season there are injuries etc in which a small school like Morgan has lack of depth and therefore it is tougher to compete week in and out against big Scc schools (numbers, Not talent is the big difference)

    • Dream on says

      No way does Morgan beat anyone from the SCC. Lyman Hall and East Haven could beat them with both teams at full health. Size, talent, and depth are the differences. Morgan doesn’t have one kid that could start at any of the heavy guys in D1. The SCC breed is just much bigger and better with no explanation. Come on over Morgan, we need a 20th team.

    • Just Sayin says

      What 3 teams out of Hand, North Haven, West Haven and Notre Dame do you think Morgan is beating? Morgan is a good small school playing in a small school league but lets not get crazy.

      • Coach Lil B says

        Please do not say Lyman Hall and East Haven would beat Morgan hahaha that’s just disrespectful and I’m not even a Morgan supporter. Morgan’s size in terms of their starters is just as big if not bigger than any team in the SCC. And I’m talking about this year’s Morgan team, last year’s Morgan team loses to 3 of 4 prolly. I just feel like a team with a strong, big, experienced senior class will win in a one game season full roster match up vs most of the Scc teams mentioned. Again this is just an opinion, I put a lot of stock into senior leadership and experience…it goes a lot farther than raw talent any day of the week especially in high school football. Would Morgan have a great record with a full Scc schedule, prolly average or at least a little above .500, again due to smaller roster and less depth when injuries happen. But one game, full healthy roster, I think they do extremely well. Again, outsiders opinion….I don’t have a biased to any of these teams. I think they are all very good, well coached programs.

        • Dream on says

          That is utter blasphemy to the SCC supporters. I feel sorry that you feel this way. With a full SCC schedule, Morgan wins 1 or 2 games if any. By week 11 they would have 15 players injured or scared to play any of the big boys.

  35. Terrance says

    Morgan would be competitive every year without X recruiting their kids. They need to do a better job of keeping kids in Clinton, which comes from school leadership. When a larger percentage of hometown kids stay at Morgan they are always a tough team.

  36. Morgan supporter says

    Morgan could compete with an all division 2 schedule. They are a smaller version of Foran. If the SCC ever went to 3 divisions they would be a good fit in the smaller division. Like the rest of division 2 they would fight in the D1 crossover games but wouldn’t be able to keep up with the size and numbers of those schools. Lyman Hall would NOT beat this team. They scrimmaged last year ask Lyman how it went.
    The coaching staff at morgan is doing an excellent job and it is great to see so much discussion about high school football! Looking forward to an exciting 2014 season!

  37. Terrance says

    Morgan would do very well in the Division II of the SCC, and they would be a good fit for their program in the SCC.

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